Where Youth Voices Become Change | Episode 142 with Daniel Senior

Daniel’s Journey into Prevention Advocacy

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Drug Prevention Power Hour. Now, it says this podcast is hosted by Jake White, but in case you missed it, I’m not Jake. I’m Reggie McDonald. Think of me as Jake’s younger, cooler, funnier replacement for this episode and the others. Now that we have that squared away, I’d like to introduce you to someone that I know very well, Daniel Sr. He is a sophomore at the University of Connecticut, double majoring in sociology and human development and Family Sciences, but with a minor in Urban and Community Studies with a passion for public health. Raised in New Britain, Connecticut and shaped by experiences with homelessness, poverty, and mental health challenges, he became a founding member of the New Britain Youth Prevention Coalition, leading outreach, advocacy, and youth-driven substance misuse prevention efforts. Daniel has been nationally trained by CADCA, recognized by his city for his service, and selected for the National Youth Action Council, where he has spoken at conferences and partnered with statewide prevention initiatives.

At UConn, he continues his work by founding PULSE, a youth-led nonprofit coalition focused on public health, prevention, and community empowerment while staying involved in campus life, creative work, and leadership roles. He believes leadership is rooted in authenticity, empathy, and using lived experience to create meaningful change. He plans to continue his leadership journey by pursuing a Master of Public Health after undergrad. Everyone meet Daniel. How are you today?

Good, how are you? Good, I’m good. It’s been a while. It has literally it’s been two years since I’ve seen you last in person, but I’m I get to see you on my computer screen Yeah, that’s crazy. very thankful for Zoom calls, I guess. So just to, as we get started with this, I know you just gave a little intro, but tell me, let’s do, give me one cool fact about you, one uncool fact about you.

Oh, okay. One cool fact about me is that, oh, I don’t know what’s considered cool. I have a YouTube channel that I started recently. That’s pretty cool. Yeah, I’m looking to get more active on there, I’m gonna post more content, like more prevention related content. So that’s coming up this, hopefully this next year when I have more time. And one uncool fact about me is that I volleyball all my life and now I play on the UConn club So that’s really cool. But I guess that’s not that cool.

I don’t know what’s uncool. I love sleeping. I nap all the time. That’s uncool. Yeah, I don’t think that’s uncool. I don’t think that’s uncool at all.

Okay. I am so excited for this. But all right, let’s just get, let’s just dive right into it. So how did you first get involved in prevention, field, all that jazz? Yeah. So like you mentioned in my little spiel, I’m from Newport, Connecticut. And so we are a low income town with a major, major population. And so I joined, I was a part of this afterschool program in my middle school. And then I guess one of the staff members recognized me as a good leader, I guess you could say. And so then she recommended me to be a part of this program, which I think was first called the New Britain Youth Leadership Council. And it was just a bunch of people from like various schools in New Britain who had strong leadership potential.

And then right around the time where COVID hit, the government shoved a bunch of funding at us to kind of focus on the opioid epidemic. And so that’s kind of where the New Bernese Prevention Coalition came into play. And we kind of shifted our focus from less leadership to more prevention work and prevention efforts and with opioids and substance abuse and marijuana and vaping and alcohol and all of that. And so that’s kind of where it started. I was first just picked as like a teacher’s pet who was a good leader. And then I somehow became prevention specialist after that.

The Importance of Community and Relationships

I love that, I love that. kind of like, exact same thing happened to me. just kind of like, it’s just cool to think like, you kind of, things sometimes just fall in your lap. And I don’t want to speak for you, but at least in my case, like I had no idea how far this was gonna go. Like, I never would have thought that like being picked by my teacher, like my freshman year of high school would have like blossomed into me meeting Daniel Senior, like.

Yeah, like those are just things that like it kind of all just happens and happens and you don’t realize like how amazing it is and like what a blessing it’s been until like you can kind of stop and look back at it like Because sometimes it does feel like work. But honestly like it’s so cool. Sorry. That was my little tangent I’ll get I’ll get back to it

No, I agree with everything you said so you talk about like really stemmed from like leadership and you guys kind of changed it to be more opioid epidemic and substance misuse because of kind of the population you were working with within your town, right? Okay, so those are kind of heavy topics for sure. Like not necessarily something people really want to talk about something that’s very like it’s not something lighthearted to work on. And I’m just gonna make a little assumption that it’s not always the most fun to like surround yourself with that sort of like having to think about it all the time.

I just so much like, and then there’s the homelessness aspect of it when I was homeless and trying to prevent that as well. I’m like, my gosh, there’s so much that we can’t fit in the span of 30 minutes, but one day.

I mean, if you love thinking about it, that’s great, but I feel like that’d be pretty heavy, right? So when it does get heavy, when it’s just a lot, you you talk about like how busy you’ve been lately, like what is your why? Why do you keep doing this even when it’s not fun?

Ooh, that’s a great question. think, I like to think back to me before my leadership days, before I had the outlet of being a part of this group and like how isolating that was. And I feel like my why is because of the past me and all the other people in my life and my past too. I felt this like suffocating, like I saw it said, like loneliness within themselves. And so a lot of the time, a lot of this opioid use is because of loneliness. And so how do we kind of acknowledge that and say hey like you are not alone. And so I think I needed to hear that growing up. I think I Don’t know. I just want people to never have to kind of feel the way that I did growing up and so also I’ve Seen family members battled addictions various addictions whether that’s like cigarettes or alcohol and so I also just would like Those people to kind of be honored in that way of like hey How can I help these people going forward to kind of prevent these things from happening in the future? And yeah, I also just think that we all need someone to talk to and we all need some good friends in our lives. So I’d to be that friend for people who are going through something. So that’s kind of my why.

wow, I love that. I feel like there’s so much we can unpack here just feel like that’s a very selfless why. know? Very much like, I would expect nothing less from you, but at the same time, like, I mean it’s true, from the very little time that I actually met you in person, I very much would expect this wanting to help other people, you know? That’s just kind of who you are. And so, I hope that through this work you don’t necessarily feel that loneliness all the time anymore, but I mean, it is kind of like, it’s a hard field to be in and it’s not easy. I think that your viewpoint and wanting to honor people that you know have struggled is, it’s just very noble. Maybe that’s not the right word. I use that word as a joke. I was kind of scrapping for something, but I just think it’s a very selfless and compassionate way of thinking about it. And I think that’s what it’s all about, you know?

Challenges in the Prevention Field

Yeah, think because there’s no one in this field is doing it for the money. No one here is doing it for the like, no one’s doing it for any of the reasons besides like they all have a why it’s why they’re doing this work. And so think that’s what is important about the production field.

Yes. It’s a very like people centered field. Like it’s all based around like wanting to help other people and make sure that like no one else goes through the same things. Maybe you have or like someone you know has. And I think back to like, you know, at CADCA they have like that opening plenary with like everybody.

We did quite a lot, which surprises a lot of people considering the background that we come from, but I think, I don’t know, it’s crazy to think about, luckily I have this right next to me. This is our year in review kind of sheet of all the things that we did during the year of 2024, which is really nice that this is here, because I would have not remembered everything, but here it’s listed here is we had a limit access campaign, so that campaign kind of highlighted how youth are accessing drugs, alcohol, substances, and kind of using that to kind of further our initiatives to prevention. So you found that a lot of people are getting alcohol from home. They’re getting drugs and vapes from their friends and so, and from their sisters and brothers and their family members.

And so we kind of use that knowledge to kind of target our initiatives that way. So we started making PSAs. We filmed around three or four PSAs that year, focusing on various topics like how to stay safe with parties and we talked about like Narcan, we had a Narcan campaign, I can, you can Narcan, very, very catchy and very memorable. And we started a peer to peer education program in the middle school program in the middle schools in our city where basically people who were caught doing vaping in the bathroom, instead of getting suspended, they would then come to our program every Wednesday, every Thursday. And we would like talk to them about how to navigate stressors in their lives.

We would talk to them about the effects of vaping on their health and on their well-being and on their mental health. And so yeah, we showed them those like really nasty pig lungs that are like pink and black and they were like, can I touch it? And they were like, you want, but it smells kind of bad. And yeah, we did that. We also did a survey. So this is the data from our survey where like we found, which we gave to individuals from sixth through 12th grade, just about their relationship substances in their life. And so one of the major things was definitely like that access to a trusted adult, to someone that they could talk to and kind of get that connection with. So that’s again, why I kind of bring up that loneliness part because it’s such a core like problem to this epidemic. But yeah, and then also, my gosh, we also host every year, Prevention Palooza, which is like a big festival carnival thing where like, have like clowns come in and like, have a bunch of games and like rides and we kind of center all around prevention.

Yeah, it’s like we have like tables of information and a bunch of fun games that we do and all these videos on our website and I will send you the link to our website, but there’s like videos about the events that we have and I’m sure I’m missing other stuff. We do a tour drive in the winter. So like you have an angel tree. There’s so many things that we do that go into our coalition that I’m so beyond proud of having a part of. I’m no longer in it because I graduated, but I still come back. I’m in the office now. I work whenever I can, but we are a powerhouse of a coalition and I’m so proud of work that we do.

Yes. I remember being at one of those and they said to stand up if you had a immediate family member who had struggled with substance abuse in any way and literally whole room stands up.

Like, and it’s just like, it’s really moving and powerful to see that, you know, we’re all in very similar situations and we can use that to help other people and make sure the problem doesn’t get worse.

So we’ll continue. We’ll sort of go with that. Keeping that in mind, like why you do everything like your why and all of that, what kind of things does New Britain Youth Prevention do? kind of initiatives did you guys run while you were at HEC?

Okay, so basically it is the city of New Britain has this event. It’s called like Celebrate New Britain that happens every single year. And so the whole city comes up for it they’re all there and they’re all in attendance. And basically what they have here is like a bunch of different vendors line up. So there’s like shops that sell like bracelets, t shirts, homemade supplies, like it’s just a bunch of different shops that sell a bunch of different things. And so there’s bouncy houses, It’s like a kids zone where they can get their face painted and do all these different fun activities. There’s like that zipper ride that goes around that’s around here. And so we kind of partner with the city to kind of put this event on every single year. And we have, think, a time block of about three hours. That’s like from noon to three that we have as Prevention Palooza.

So basically we have people come up, we have partners from around the city come up and speak about their initiatives on stage and people come listen. This is like a big event because it’s the whole city. have, I don’t know the number exactly, but there’s like thousands of people that will pass through this event and just like hear what we have to say at a time. And yeah, like youth go out there and they like perform. The marching band goes up and performs. I performed one time on the stage. I don’t know what I was thinking, but it was fun.

And yeah, I mean, it’s a lot of the planning is through the city. So we have the city support and like that team. So it’s a lot more planning than you would think would go into it. But again, that goes into like, using your partners well, using your resources, trying to get on that city level. Luckily, we are a coalition that’s based within the city of New Britain, our offices in City Hall, so we have a lot of those city connections. But yeah, I think it’s a lot of planning that we had to do as well, to plan those three hours and who we wanted on stage to talk and what we wanted to give away. We gave away t-shirts and all this stuff that we have here. We gave away all of this and beanies and I don’t know, it’s a lot of fun and I think that’s definitely a good way to have it during an already established event that people go to and then it kind of builds up your credibility a little bit.

Just gonna throw it out there how wildly impressive that is. Like you said you’re a powerhouse of a coalition, could not agree more. Could not agree more. Like, okay, wow. I’ll give you that. You can have the title of powerhouse. Like that, I love the year review. That’s perfect. I might have to steal that honestly. But you know, I’m sitting here and I’m listening, right? And like taking couple notes on like things I want to talk about and then I hear you say like and we had this thing called a prevention palooza and you start talking about it and in my head like I didn’t really think anything of it then I went back and I was like did Dana just say prevention palooza?

Innovative Initiatives: Prevention Palooza

We’re need a little more. gonna need to dig into that a little more. You said, okay, just like paint the picture for me. What does this look like? And then I’m gonna ask you to like describe how we even get to this point.

That’s a great question. I think a lot of it comes from having like talking to the mayor, talking to your legislators. like we went to common council meetings and we just kind of talked about what we did and the work that we did. Luckily our mayor, our past mayor, she’s no longer elected, but our mayor, she was very into like the whole prevention work and she was very passionate about it. And she would always come to talk to us about like come to our meetings to get to know more about like the work that we do. I think that we were very lucky in that way to just have a mayor who is very prevention focused and prevention centering.

I’m gonna install that this was a big issue in our community, but I think, yeah, going out to those meetings, trying to schedule meetings with them. know they’re busy people, but like the more they get to see your face and they get to know your name, the more they wanna help you, right? And so being able to also going and showing that you have something to offer. like having ideas, having plans kind of already set up with like budget in mind, you know, and all these various things, I think.

It’s good to have ideas, but you have to have solid actionable plans behind those or else people are going to be like, okay, he just has ideas and they don’t want to hear what they have to say. But you can show that you’re a responsible person who does, goes the extra mile to give this proposal. I think that’s really what matters. And yeah, just retention, talking to them again and again, don’t let them forget who you are. And just like almost being annoying whenever you see them like, my God, hey, how are you doing? How are things? You know, just like always be present in their lives.

Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so when did you guys start putting on like prevention pillows? I do know 2022? 2022, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I think I’ve been to three. Yeah, yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, I’ve to three.

So in doing that, how did you go to the city and say, we want to like, use some of this as like, time to talk about prevention? How do you kind of like, you talk about using your resources, like how do you use that resource and get this sort of thing started?

Yeah, mean, that’s also a thing is like being youth, right? So people don’t take you seriously sometimes. And so if there’s an adult that works with you your coalition that you think has pretty good footing within your community that you would like to bring with you and kind of share that conversation with you, that’s also a good idea, at least for the first time around. Because reality is that sometimes they don’t want to listen to us and don’t take us seriously. And so what can we do to kind of combat that stigma around youth, you know? So definitely bring an adult around if you have one for the first time, at least.

Yeah, I feel like when you talk about like making sure that you have like actionable plans and you’re not just like having ideas and all that sort of things, it really builds your credibility. Like people start to trust you a lot more when they see that like you’ve thought this through and you know what you’re doing and you know what you’re talking about. And I think that’s something that is really key in advocacy work and in this field in general is being completely prepared and being an expert on your topic, you know?

And a lot of that is trusting that you are an expert on your topic. Like, you’ve done a lot of work for this. You have to have that trust and that confidence in yourself to know that, you can handle the questions we’re going to throw at you, you know? But part of that is the fact that, like, we are youth, you know? We’re younger than most people that we’re talking to. And you can’t let that scare you because there’s so many ideas that would never be said and never be acted upon if we’re just too to share them and use your resources. Like that’s a great resource. Like nothing wrong with So now that we’ve kind of gone over like the sort of things that you’ve done and all of the great things that you’ve done and all the great things that have come out of it, what happened? Some barriers that you’ve ran into in the process, like some things that haven’t necessarily gone super smoothly because if I had to take a guess, I’d say it probably hasn’t been all sunshine for you.

Yeah, yeah, I think one thing, at least for my personal journey in prevention, is there’s two things, right? So there’s the funding aspect, the funding I can’t really control that, but when the government is like, hey, we’re taking away your money, you kind of have to just redo your whole plans over and over and over again. And I’m sure you’ve faced that multiple times, but that is a big thing, but you have to understand that that isn’t something you can control. And so you start thinking, okay, what can you control, right? We can have events that don’t cost as much. We can have free events. We can have different things that are still impacting these population but are meaningful. And so that’s definitely been a barrier of like, do we kind of, when we have this big idea that’s perfect and great, and then something else just kind of takes it, how can we revamp that idea to the best it still can be? And so that’s definitely one challenge I have.

And then I think the other challenge that I’ve had personally is finding like-minded leaders. think this field, like we said, is very niche and specific. And so a lot of youth aren’t really thinking about the things that we’re thinking about, where they’re not thinking about the whole prevention aspect, and they’re not thinking about not drinking because they’re college age, and that’s a part of the stigma of being in college, right? It’s like, doing all of this. And so I think a lot of the time, it’s been very isolating of doing this work and being like, am I doing the right thing? No one else around me is focused on these really big issues. No one else is putting in as much time and effort into things that they care about as I am. Am I being a teenager wrong? Am I supposed to be like living out my like teens more? I supposed to like, am I doing the right thing? Right? And so I think because of that, it’s kind of made finding friends a little bit hard, right? And so that’s why I always talk about going to these conferences is like really great moments for me because I get to meet people like you and like Izzy and like everyone else who I get to meet.

And I’m like, oh my God, these are my people because they understand that like the work that we’re doing is so important and that like these other things don’t matter as much. Right? And so I think it’s been really hard for me to kind of motivated doing my work when I don’t see peers who are also motivated to do this work. But then I have to remember those conferences and all those people I’ve met and I text them like, hey guys, I miss you. Like, what are you doing in your coalitions? And so that always gives me a little boost like, okay, I can keep going. But I think, yeah, again, back to that loneliness aspect of like, am I the only one doing this? I the only one who cares? I think that has been a really hard barrier for me to kind of push past. But having people like you and using your resources and your connections is a great way to overcome that barrier.

Absolutely. I would say that like, I totally agree with like not being able to find those peers. Like it’s really hard, like, especially when you get like super involved in this to be able to find people who think the same way, can kind of support you and uplift you. It’s also something hard to explain at times. Like, I don’t know if you feel that, like, like now like going into college when I’m like, like, yes, I, I work for this company and like, I kind of do prevention work.

No one really understands that cause they haven’t like been around to see it unfold. so I would definitely say, that the friendships I have because of this are some of the greatest friends I’ve ever met. There are people that I wouldn’t trade for the world. I haven’t seen you in two years, and I feel like I can talk to you for hours just off of random things. And those relationships, at least for me, that’s kind of my why. It’s just the people I’ve been able to meet and the friendships I’ve been able to build.

Okay, so besides friendships, relationships, whatever, how has being involved in prevention and in this field in general, how has that been good for you? What skills do feel like you’ve How’s it changed you as a person? Let’s dive into that.

Skills and Personal Growth in Advocacy

Yeah, I mean, in so many ways, think I am the person I am because of prevention, right? And so I think growing up, I always knew that I had like something sort of kind of different about me. I was always told I was like older than my age. Like I acted like I was like in my 30s and I was like eight years old and all that stuff. And I was like, okay, great. Like, what does that mean? Right? Like, what do I do with that information?

What do I put that into? And so being able to find adults who kind of understood that and kind of use that to  pushed me and to kind of make me think a little bit harder, did wonders for my other intellectual capabilities. So it kind of made me feel smarter going up. And also gave me great public speaking skills, right? And so speaking at events like Provence of Palooza and speaking with common council members and having these PSAs that were filmed and shown in the schools and all of these different things, it kind of just builds you up as a leader which I think is the most important part. just as an individual, right, you kind of learn, again, like this work is selfless and so you can’t be a selfish person with this work, you can’t be judgmental. E

veryone else has a different story, a different life, or different how they got into the place that they are now. so leading with love and compassion has been a big thing for me. think before this work, I was a lot more selfish. I kind of mainly cared a lot about myself. And I thought, you know, like well, my life sucks, but like, no, like other people’s lives also suck. Like, you can’t just think that everything revolves around you all the time. And sometimes you’re like, hey, my life sucks, but like, I can control that, right? And so think about what you can control as well. Yeah, it’s kind of just gave me like this different point of view of how I view life and how I view my life. And so I really am focused on being intentional with my words and my actions, the things I do, the things I say, who I’m friends with.

It’s made me very appreciative of a lot of things in my life. Yeah, I don’t know. It’s just been a really cool thing to experience. Because people in this field are very like-minded. Yeah, I don’t know. It’s just been a very, very cool and pivotal thing for my growth as a human being and as a leader and as a student and all these other things. I’m majoring now in sociology to kind of get that social perspective as to why substance abuse affects so many people today.

And there’s so many other things that can go on and go on about as to how it’s affecting me, but I’ve gained networking skills, public speaking, planning, advocacy. Literally, if you name it, I probably gained it doing this work in some way, shape or form. So it is a field I would recommend so many people get into if they can.

But that’s the thing too, is like, yeah, like I’m, I’m such a proponent of like everything happens for a reason. And like, that’s why I’m not stressed about my future is because I know everything will work out, right? You have to believe that things will work out and then they will. You have to trust yourself and realize that like you value yourself enough to let yourself believe that you are a person deserving of good things happening to you. And so I think that’s kind of where this whole, this whole first started was like believing in myself and having other people believe in me when I didn’t believe in myself.

Wow. Okay. You kind of just talked about it with the whole like, believing in yourself and leaning with love and compassion. But is there any sort of like motto or quote or something that you think you kind of base your life around? This isn’t super related to prevention. It’s just something I like to ask.

I have, I think I have a few different ones. I’m still working on getting my signature quote because I feel like there’s a lot that I have in mind. I’m pulling up my notes app because I have different quotes that I like to live by. But the first one I think of is like, we’re all on our own journey, right? And so kind of not comparing yourself to other people’s experiences and kind of realizing that like, hey, like you have the capability to kind of dedicate your life to it if you wanted to dedicate your life to everything happens for a reason. That’s, mean, that one’s popular, but that one’s true to me. Everything happens for a reason. Everything doesn’t spend time and time again.

Yeah, there’s so many, know. This one’s kind of prevention based. It’s like education is a tool. The lack of education is a weapon think about that, you Yeah, I mean, that one’s cool. Yeah, I think okay, this one too is big for kind of in that same topic, but it’s hard to understand others when you don’t understand yourself. I think that is also something that’s big to kind of think about is like, a lot of the work you do kind of comes from this within feeling of yourself. So if you don’t understand yourself, how could you understand others? Kind of like, if you don’t love yourself, could you love others? Same thing, but like on a little deeper level. Yeah.

To close this out, because this could go on forever. This has been perfect. This is, I just, before we close out, I want to say for the first time, I’ll say it again in a little bit. Thank you so much for being on this. I think I speak for myself and my boss and my listeners when I say that this has just been.

So uplifting and it’s been such a light. It’s something I’ve been looking forward to talking to you. And the more that we talk, the more I’m like, man, like I wish you didn’t live in Connecticut. That’s all I’m gonna say to close this out, it is time for today’s bright spot, that one person who’s made a real impact and kept you moving forward. And I think it’s the perfect way to end because we all shine a little brighter thanks to the people who kind of guided us throughout the way. And so if you had to pick one person who’s made an impact on you, whether it’s in the prevention field or in life in general, who would it be? Why would you choose them?

My gosh, this is perfect because his head is literally right behind me. This is one of my favorite people on Big Little Plants Planet and my mentor, his name is Omar McDew. He is a football coach at my old high school at my alma mater. He is the youth advocate for the city of Newport in Connecticut. is Santa around Christmas. We call him Black Santa. He is one of the most selfless people I’ve ever met ever.

He’s one of the most genuine people I’ve ever met. He’s one of the most loving people I’ve ever met. He is amazing. He is the leader of our coalition. He’s more of the youth leader of it. He handles a lot of the affairs. He’s just always been there for me whenever I needed anything. Being low income, I never got Christmas gifts, and so every year I know I can get gifts from him. He would get me meals to cook for Thanksgiving.

He got me this freaking laptop that I’m recording this on. I guess the whole city, the whole team here in New Britain has just become my family. I have a lot of that to owe to him and to the best of them. But for the sake of picking one person, I will just talk about him. And I know he’s that for so many other people. is genuinely one of the best people on the planet and I hope that everyone has an Omar in their life because he is so… I model a lot of the things that I do and the way that I treat others based off his image and the kind of the way that he does things and how he’s done things for me. And he’s helping me with Pulse, the nonprofit I just started for college students. Like he is, he, this man, like he is silly, he’s goofy, he’s kind, he’s genuine. That’s like, I can’t.

Like he treats every single kid like it’s his own kid. He doesn’t have any kids because he’s like, I don’t need kids. have you guys as my kids. The whole city is my kids. I’m like, my gosh, so you’re just a perfect human being. And he is just truly inspiring. And if you could speak to one person, I would speak to him because he has so much to say and so much to offer and so much experience in this field. And he’s like a father to me. Like we go side by side and like, my God, is that your son? And I’m like, we’re both bald, so maybe. Maybe, but he genuinely is such an amazing person and I would love it if you could speak to him and get to hear his story as well.

That’s perfect. That is, that is amazing. And I’m so glad that he’s been in your life and he seems like he’s made a real impact in so many lives. That’s beautiful. well, Daniel, unfortunately we have already gone over time. but thank you so much for spending your time with me and, thank you for all the phenomenal work you and advocacy you’ve done in not only your community, but your state and I’ve told you before, but this is just, it’s such an inspiration for me.

And I think it’s inspiration to so many others. And you really should be so proud of everything that you’ve done because I feel like a lot of times it kind of gets pushed under the rug because like you’re so busy working and working and working that you don’t realize how far you’ve come and how many people you’ve already impacted. And so don’t forget that. Cause you’ve done a phenomenal job and you’ve impacted so many lives. thank you as we wrap up, I will link Pulse in the bio for this, as well as anything else that Daniel would like anyone to follow along with. If you would like to continue to follow along with his journey and his advocacy work, I 100 % recommend it. And finally, to our audience members, thank you so much for giving Jake’s replacement a chance and for the life-saving work you’re doing in your communities. It does not go unnoticed. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with your friend or someone who would benefit. This has been the Drug Prevention Power Hour with your hosts, Reagan McDonald and Daniel Sr. I’m doing Jake’s job, only better. We will see you next time.


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